Tuesday, May 01, 2007

Punishment fitting the crime

I have studiously stayed out of the Duke rape case through its entire lifecycle - the case started before I began blogging and I just was sick of all the coverage it got, both in the MSM and in the MRA blogger community so I never wrote about it. Of course, it was found that Crystal Gail Mangum (what the fuck kind of a name is that?) was lying and everyone is focusing on the next most convenient man to take the fall. Everyone is coming out against Nifong, but of course the lying bitch who filed the accusations got off without any damage.

I was going through Glenn Sacks's archives and saw this post about false rape accusations.

In the comments section,

  1. Ben Says:

    Here is a case of a false accusation that without a video tape would have resulted in decades of prison time for the young men.


    Woman did receive jail time for perjury and filing a false police report.

This story is about a slut who filed false rape accusations about a group of men who she claims hooded and gang-raped her, but it turns out that not only was she wide awake during the entire thing, but also was not satisfied with some of the men's penis size.

Next month an Orange County jury will hear the case against Moonier
(now Kerr following her marriage). Interesting footnote: without the
videotape, the men could have spent the rest of their lives in state
prison if they were convicted of kidnapping and aggravated rape with a
handgun. But the woman’s false accusation is a misdemeanor punishable
by no more than six months in county jail. It’s only because she took
several thousand dollars from a taxpayer-funded victims’ assistance
program that she was charged with two felonies.

False rape accusers are routinely let go, if they are caught in the first place - the overarching philosophy behind any rape accusation is that "she is right" - whether she is the rapist, or the alleged rapee. This is how women are able to get off whether they falsely accuse or commit statutory rape.

I don't know whether its feminist training that compels judges to view any females they see in their courts as angels fallen from the sky, or their own traditional thinking, but I'm inclined to believe its the former. Especially after reading about the MIT Admissions Dean who was forced to resign on Friday, April 27, 2007 after she made waves in the feminist university system with a report on why boys are falling behind in education.

Back to false rape accusations - why is someone who has calculated to abuse the justice system to ruin someone's life with a false rape accusation punished less than someone caught lifting a pack of gum at the local 7-11?

Why does the punishment never fit the crime when a female is the criminal?


  1. From Pete's post:

    "This story is about a slut who filed false rape accusations about a group of men who she claims hooded and gang-raped her, but it turns out that not only was she wide awake during the entire thing, but also was not satisfied with some of the men's penis size."

    Several years back in my state, a state prison inmate filed suit because (1) the food was lousy and (2) the portions were too small. Poor food but not enough of it? In other words, the same principle as above—but at least the inmate's frivolous suit didn't ruin anyone's life with a false accusation.

  2. Hi Pete,

    Found your blog because of the Free Skype Mother's Day calls on Engadget article. Anyways, I've definitely added you to my bookmarks. Not sure if you've had a chance to check out this book. Definitely a good read. Not as 'restrained' I'd guess you say as most of Warren Farrell's work, but it's a great book.

    "The Rantings of a Single Male"

    Kinda obstrusive to direct link to amazon.com, but do a search and you'll find it.

    Take care.

  3. All I know is this: If women were tried & convicted of lying about rape the number of reported rape cases would plumet overnight. The other side is: The would be rapee's would say that women would not report an actual rape because if there is no evidence to convict the raper, she could go to jail, even if she was raped.


  4. Pete-
    I don't know how to send you links directly other than here, but here's one I think might interest you.



  5. I came accross this letter/article from another website, but thought you might like the update on this vicious B**, I mean woman...It was written by her soon to be ex husband.who is mentioned in the L.A. times article: also, here is the link.
    Falsely Accused? And them some...

    I realize my heading, "Falsely Accused? And then some...", reads slightly Negative. I don't mean it to be. I was, (correction: I AM) a happy person in life. But it is Life's frustrations which cause us to be negative. Which is truly where my dilemma begins and unfortunately, won't be over for quite some time(according to my attorney!!) My frustrations as well come from the same types of stories I have read on this website, so I feel right at home. Two years ago, I would have thought you were all a bunch of babbling, Cry-Baby Idiots. However, I share way too much in common with my ordeal as most of the postings I read on this site. You see, My soon to be ex-wife is listed and referenced a few times on this site as well as thousands of other Websites, Blogs, and The Network Media, The Associated Press and Newspapers, Magazines, and once on a T-shirt that I saw!!
    Below is the L.A. Times article and below that is the section that was on this site...
    False rape report leads to 1-year sentence
    A Dana Point woman accused six men of abducting her, but a video shows her orchestrating some of the sex.
    By Mai Tran
    Times Staff Writer
    November 10, 2006

    A Dana Point woman who told police she was kidnapped at gunpoint and raped by six men was sentenced Thursday to 360 days in jail after
    confessing that she had made up the crime.

    Tamara Anne Moonier, 30, was arrested after one of the men brought forth a video that showed the woman was a willing participant in a night of sex. In court Thursday, a tearful Moonier pleaded for leniency and said she was remorseful. Moonier, who works as a receptionist at a woman's fitness center, said she had suffered from mental illness, depression and bipolar disorder since her teenage years, and is on prescription medication. She is currently in divorce proceedings and a custody battle for her 14-month-old child.

    Orange County Superior Court Judge Carla M. Singer said that if Moonier was well behaved during the first 90 days in jail, she could serve the
    remaining time under house arrest, officials said. Moonier was also ordered to repay more than $2,000 to the state for financial aid she received for being an alleged victim of violent crimes.

    Moonier, who had no criminal history, pleaded guilty in July to two felony counts of making false police reports and one count each of perjury and
    grand theft. She was facing a maximum of four years and eight months in prison. Moonier went to Fullerton police June 6 and reported that she had been abducted outside a bar at gunpoint then taken to an unknown location and raped, authorities said. But police later determined that she agreed to go to a house and have sex with the men, which was videotaped.

    One of the men showed police the 40-minute tape that depicted Moonier orchestrating some of the sex, authorities said. Deputy Dist. Atty. Paul Chrisopoulos said the woman's punishment was not harsh enough.
    "I wanted her to serve all year in custody," Chrisopoulos said. "She exposed these men to a lifetime in prison. To serve a year in prison is minuscule to what she was accusing these men of."

    The six men, who were not arrested or charged, would have faced life sentences had they been convicted.

    Copyright 2006 Los Angeles Times
    Yes, I was married to this person. I notice that this site shows us that this is a Positive Development for Men. It would be, except for the reason I chose to write about this woman. Let me explain, I am going to paste in a little of the e-mail I wrote to John last night:

    The Reason I am writing you is to inform you and possibly your readers, Interesting information about this woman and her family.

    To Start Tamara Moonier and her Mother state that she is innocent and she took a Plea Deal to avoid a conservative Jury so she would not get more Jail time, they (The Moonier House of Whores-Tamara and her mother Wendy Moonier) also state that Miss Tamara has had Great Behavior in Jail and will be getting released on March 2nd at only 59 days of Time served on her year long sentence given by Judge Carla Singer who states that Tamara Moonier can be released to House Arrest for her remaining 9 months of custody. (For anyone believing Poor Tamara wasn't really Raped, I would like to point out that the Internet is a great Resource tool and it also allows us to Read Transcripts of Tamara Moonier's Gang-Bang Film Debut.) I would like to further point out in the L.A. Times Article stating the same as above about Judge Singer's Sentence for Miss Moonier, How was she able to only do less than 60 days in Jail? So does this mean she gets more credit than any other inmate for "Time Served and Calculated for GOOD BEHAVIOR" So, This means Good Behavior for her is: She did not accuse anyone of Rape while she has been in Jail!! This is an outrage!!

    Tamara Moonier and her family have been falsely accusing every male Human Being (I heard a shameful story about a dog and cat once, but that is for another time) that has come in contact with her family, including her own family members: Father, Uncle, Grandfather, husbands, and even boyfriends) for the past 20+ years of Rape and Molestation. I have countless signed affidavits and countless (literally several hundred) pieces of proof. I have written statements proving and alleging that Wendy Moonier (Tamara Moonier's shining example of a mother) and Tamara Moonier have coached Tamara's Daughter into accusing Tamara's 1st ex-husband of molesting her. (by the way, Tamara lost custody of that daughter in 2001), I won't mention the child's name because she is a child, but let me point out that the apple does not fall far from the Tree!! This same child tried to accuse me as well, which she was probably coached as well by her Mother and Grandmother until her Lie was caught by some kind of Therapist that they were all seeing at the same time. Wendy Moonier has also paraded her daughter's on the national Talk-Show circuit doing shows like Geraldo, Montel and a long list of others except Jerry Springer, (Their producers would not give me any information on past shows unless I agreed to go his show. Do I really need to tell you what my answer was?) She brought her kids on to these shows for various topics and all about related to the same topic, Either Rape/Molestation/Tamara and her family had no male figure in her life (an actual topic)/ and to tell the world that they are victims!!

    This woman and her familly are not VICTIMS, they are PREDATORS!! Let me re-cap the last 7 months of my life: This woman left me 3 days before she plead guilty to her crimes, since then, I have spent the last 7 months and 10's of Thousands of Dollars trying to get custody of our 20 month old son from this above mentioned lunatic. I haven't even mentioned about her "Bi-Polar Disorder" (Yet, the night is young)

    Have you ever known anyone with this illness? It is like living with all of the inmates from "One Flew Over the Cookoos Nest" but worse, those patients were at least entertaining. The night before she left me, I had to pull about 2 bottles of pills out of her mouth and stop them from going down her throat. Because she was going through her trial and I was married to her, I did not call the police because I did not want to see her get locked up, I have since changed my mind. (by the way, let me point out that SHE LEFT ME, not the other way around, but our marriage is another story) To go back to my custody battle, the judge agreed to Joint Custody because the judge in our case has to order what is called a 730 evaluation, which is an in depth evaluation on both parents to determine what is best for the child...My attorney also informed me that California courts tend to favor Woman. My attorney assures me that an Evaluator will definetely see through Tamara and I should end up with Custody. Tamara Moonier should have never gotten any Kind of Custody in any way, shape form or anything. Tamara Moonier has already lost custody of one child, gave up another for adoption, and she and her family continue their abuse on any man coming into contact with them, they try to take their money, morals, and anything else they can get their hands in or on. All I want is for this child to be raised by a person who has morals, Values, does not falsely accuse people of doing horrible things to gain money and fame, and above all a decent human being: My Vote is ME!! I don't want child support from Tamara, but I also don't want to pay Tamara Moonier's Living expenses for the rest of my Life, just because she wants a FREE RIDE!! Make no mistake about it, that is the only reason she wants any custody whatsoever: MONEY!!! It is probably why she committed her crime in the first place, remember she defrauded the Victim-Witness Funds!! So, until this 730 evaluation is completed, I have to pay for Tamara Moonier's apartment because she has nowhere else to live except her Mother's house in La Palma, CA (The House of Whores) while she is on House Arrest. The Judge in my Custody case ordered this because he states if I really don't want Tamara Moonier's Mother having anything to do with raising this child, I will put my money up and show the court how important this is to me. This Child is the Most Important thing in this subject. I think there are lots of lessons to be learned here, but that is for another time...

    When I met Tamara Moonier barely 2 years ago, I had no idea what I was to be in store for. We met on the Internet and she probably got pregnant our first weekend together. From that Weekend on Tamara would just Cry to get what she wanted, or in the end just Took it, like a thief in the night. I never imagined this would have ever happened to me. I could go on and on about this woman. That is it for now...I just wanted to tell my story and make sure this woman and her Mother never hurt anyone again. (Tamara and Wendy Moonier)

    What a crazy justice system and world we live in...

    This was the next Blog update after the ex-husband's article. It was written by her Uncle:

    by charlesmoonier on Fri May 04, 2007 at 05:43:39 PM EST
    I have a long confusing story, I will make this brief. I can explain more in detail if anyone cares. This is my niece. About 12 years ago, she made similar accusitions about my brother (her dad) and me. I ended up having to give up my daughter I had custody of, back to her mother in a terrible court battle. Tami made a telephone deposition to here in Az. and my ex wife, Barbara Ann Moonier (Hunt), Tamis' mother (Wendy Ellen Moonier) and soon to be ex (Barbara Ann Moonier (Heinssen) helped Tami dream up the story and had her tell it to Calif. and Az. authorities. C.P.S. got involved and kids here and in Cal. were interviewed. I spent the next 12 years being threatened by exes to be turned in for being a pedifile if I did't cooperate with various demands. Now that Tami has been exposed, I finally have enough strength to stand up in court and face a divorce decree modification for my daughters benefit.
    I can forgive Tami for what she did. My concern is that Tami was just as much a victim as the 6 guys, my brother, myself and God knows how many others from the manipulation by her mom, Wendy and my two exes Barbara & Barbara. They are the real criminals.

    Here is another Update on these vicious women... (also written by her Uncle):
    I wanted to give a further update...I'm the uncle of Tami Moonier who falsely accused me of rape etc. A few weeks ago, I finally had the opportunity to testify in California court against her and her mother Wendy Ellen Moonier on befalf of Alan (Tamara Moonier's ex-husband). After several of her 'witnesses' testified, coming out of the courtroom giving high-fives, I was called into the room. After a brief in-and-out, a switch with Tami in the room, and me back again, I was able to (for the first time) state the truth about her lies based upon a quote Tami made from an encounter we had a few years ago. The question was asked to her by her father, "Don't you have an apology for your uncle" This was in direct regard to her (slanderous) phone deposition made to an Arizona evaluator, Dr. Ronn Lavit accusing me of rape. Her response was, "Don't blame me, my mother made me say those things". For the first time in more that a decade, I felt like I was a free man. The horrible burden and threats from a previous wife, Barbara Ann Moonier (nka DeMartino) that she would support Tami's lies and have me thrown in jail here in Arizona is finally over!!!!! The false charges made by Wendy Moonier and Tami Moonier of domestic violence and enuendos of sexual misconduct by Alan (Tami Moonier's Ex-husband)were dropped immediately. One victory for the innocent. Now Wendy Moonier and Tami Moonier have also been in contact with Alan's (Tamara Moonier's ex-husband) ex-wife and other ex-girlfriends of his trying to convince them to have Alan's other daughter's testify against him with-No Doubt LIES, to besmerrch his good name. As I have said before, I beleive that my niece (Tamara Moonier) is a victim in all of this from a very sick woman by the name of Wendy Moonier. Have I mentioned that Wendy Moonier actually runs a child's daycare which is suplemented by the government, which I also have proof that she has defrauded the same government agencies with different scams to bring in her friends children to gain money... With all of this proof against her, why hasn't someone called the authorities regarding this woman!!

    WOW!! I am going to carry a Video Camera with me at all times from now on...
    Gary P.

  6. Thanks for the comment Gary. Its obvious that these foul bitches want to ruin everyone they come in contact with.

    The American justice system is probably just as fucked as these psychopaths, for letting them have free reign as long as they're the right sex.