Tuesday, February 06, 2007

Trolls and the Men's Rights Movement

We've recently been getting a few trolls here and there in the MRA blogging circle, in addition to the usual feminists / female shit-stirrers who either post as anonymous or take a male name.

But I've seen that most bloggers are very adamant about outing trolls as quickly as possible. Which is great, and awesome. But then you can see that most feminist blogs aren't so watchful about trolls on their sites. Here, I define a troll as someone who says he agrees with your POV but either makes his online persona completely hateful like adorning his profile with photos of Hitler or a convicted bomber, or takes your position and runs with it, making fun of it in the process.

Feminists are a lot less watchful of man-hating than MRA's are of female-hating.


  1. Pete- check this out:

    Male-bashing could prove 'disastrous,' authors warn New book on Misandry

    Graeme Hamilton

    National Post
    MONTREAL - Men feeling down on themselves need look no further than their local greeting-card shop or video-rental store for an explanation, the Montreal authors of a controversial new book argue. In Spreading Misandry: The Teaching of Contempt for Men in Popular Culture, McGill University professor Katherine Young and co-author Paul Nathanson warn that male-bashing is so pervasive in movies, television, comic strips and even greeting cards, it could have "disastrous consequences" for society.

    Dr. Nathanson, who has been working with Dr. Young on the project for 15 years, said Misandry -- the hatred of men -- is unexplored academic terrain. "I don't even know how to pronounce it," he said during an interview yesterday. "I've never heard the word used." He said the U.S. Library of Congress has three books under the heading of Misandry but thousands under misogyny -- the term for hatred of women.

    The authors hope their book, published by McGill-Queen's University Press, will make the word a part of everyday vocabulary. "Our hypothesis is that, like misogyny once upon a time, Misandry has become so deeply embedded in our culture that few people -- including men -- even recognize it," they write.

    Men who are offended are reluctant to take a stand because of "the taboo on male vulnerability," they write. The examples of Misandry cited cover a broad range. They refer to a greeting card that said, "Men are scum" on the outside and inside, "Excuse me. For a second there, I was feeling generous." They take issue with Blondie, Hagar the Horrible and Beetle Bailey, saying "pathetic men are de rigueur in comic strips."

    The brunt of their attack, however, is reserved for television and movies, everything from Home Improvement and Beavis and Butt-Head to Sleeping with the Enemy and Silence of the Lambs. Men are laughed at, denigrated or demonized, receiving treatment that would never be acceptable if directed at women, they say. Dr. Young, a professor of religious studies at McGill, said her research has attracted some hostility from "ideological feminists" who believe women are superior to men.

    "As we wrote it, we realized it's going against the grain, and therefore it's going to be controversial," she said.

    She added that being a tenured professor made it easier for her to take on the controversial topic without fear of harm to her career.

    Some may be tempted to dismiss the book as another example of academics overly obsessed with popular culture. Its index is peppered with such entries as Buffy the Vampire Slayer, Gloria Gaynor, Murphy Brown, Sex and the City and The Vagina Monologues. One appendix, titled the Misandric Week on Television, analyzes a week of TV Guide listings for examples of dastardly men. The book is the first of three volumes about Misandry the pair will publish with McGill-Queen's. Dr. Young said the issue needs to be explored because it is exacting a social toll.

    Fed a popular-culture diet of men who are either hapless or downright evil, boys and young men are feeling more alienated, she said. "What group wants to live with constant negative stereotyping?" Even more serious is the gulf such portrayals create between the sexes. "What happens to society when the prevailing world view is dualistic, with one group seen as good and the other as evil?" she asked. In their book, the authors warn such polarization could provoke a backlash.

    "If men are told over and over again that they are not only brutal sub-humans in general but also hostile to women in particular, they are likely to say, 'So be it ...' What goes around, according to the old saying, comes around," they write.


    McGill-Queen's University Press

    Spreading Misandry

    The Teaching of Contempt for Men in Popular Culture

    Paul Nathanson and Katherine K. Young

    Paul Nathanson and Katherine Young argue that men have routinely been portrayed as evil, inadequate, or as honorary women in popular culture since the 1990s. These stereotypes are profoundly disturbing, the authors argue, for they both reflect and create hatred and thus further fracture an already fractured society. In Spreading Misandry they show that creating a workable society in the twenty-first century requires us to rethink feminist and other assumptions about men.

    The first in an eventual three part series, Spreading Misandry offers an impressive array of evidence from everyday life - case studies from movies, television programs, novels, comic strips, and even greeting cards - to identify a phenomenon that is just now being recognized as a serious cultural problem. Discussing misandry - the sexist counterpart of misogyny - the authors make clear that this form of hatred must not be confused with reverse sexism or anger and should neither be trivialized nor excused.

    They break new ground by discussing misandry in moral terms rather than purely psychological or sociological ones and refer critically not only to feminism but to political ideologies on both the left and the right. They also illuminate the larger context of this problem, showing that it reflects the enduring conflict between the Enlightenment and romanticism, inherent flaws in postmodernism, and the dualistic ("us" versus "them") mentality that has influenced Western thought since ancient times.

    A groundbreaking study, Spreading Misandry raises serious questions about justice and identity in an increasingly polarized society. It is important for anyone in interested in ethics, gender, or popular culture, or just concerned about the society we are creating.

    "Genuinely intelligent and insightful. Spreading Misandry is provocative in the very best sense and will help point the way toward social harmony and away from bickering and finger-pointing."
    Donna Laframboise, columnist for The National Post and author of The Princess at the Window: A New Gender Morality

    "An important book. Nathanson and Young do a good job on introducing the average reader to the positions of various intellectuals as they relate to this moral issue and to moral issues in general."
    Charles H. Long, emeritus, religious studies, University of California at Santa Barbara

    Paul Nathanson is a freelance editor and author of Over the Rainbow: The Wizard of Oz as a Secular Myth of America.
    Katherine K. Young is professor of the history of religions in the Faculty of Religious Studies at McGill University and has published extensively on women.

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  2. I seen the website you're refering to with the asshole that Hitler in his portrait. Wait until some bitch fucks up his life and he realizes how serious we were and that our cause is no joke.

    If he is on the brink of suicide for what she did to him let him die,just one less anti-male bigot in the world.

    I may use Marc Lepine in some of my avatars but Lepine is symbolic of a man victimized by feminism,forced to fight back against it and became a martyr for the cause because of it.