Came across this link while surfing MANN: "Jealous" Mexican Men may face trial in court.Mexican men who avoid sex with their wives could be tried in court and punished under a new law, the special prosecutor for crimes against women told a local newspaper on Friday.
Men who phone their wives every half hour to check up on them, constantly suspect them of infidelity or try to control the way they dress are committing the crime of jealousy, special prosecutor Alicia Elena Perez Duarte told Excelsior newspaper.
Those who stop talking to their wives, avoid sex or try to convince suspicious spouses they are "crazy" even if they are caught red-handed having an affair, are guilty of indifference, she said.
Men found guilty of jealousy or indifference could face up to five years in prison, the newspaper said. Mexico's individual states will determine the punishments, it said.
The progressive new law was passed this month to protect women from domestic violence.
In Mexico, about 75 percent of all murdered women are killed by their husbands, Perez Duarte said.
"If we do not stop this from the beginning, it turns into beatings, and the beatings turn into more beatings and rape, until it gets out of hand, and whoops, she died," she told the paper.
Perez Duarte said the law would be a weapon that women could employ to level the playing field with abusive men.
"Men ought not to feel discriminated against," she told Excelsior.
Perez Duarte said indifference, jealousy or lack of love were crimes against women just as much as physical violence.
"Jealousy produces a particular type of stress in the person that comes up against it," she said. "It is exactly the same. They are wounds, psychological scars identical to physical scars."
There are a few important things in this ridiculous new law - joining the "Illegal to be naked inside your own house" law which came from Mexico's tequila-infused legislature last year.
First of all, men are going to go to jail for baseless, groundless, no-need-of-proof accusations of jealousy. Like the Information Minister says, Just another weapon for women to bludgeon men with.
Men are going to be hauled off for refusing to have sex, hell, for indifference towards the bitch that makes their life a living hell! This is truly a case of "jailed if you do, jailed if you don't."
And of course, the same old LIE is trotted out that this law is to protect women from domestic violence. Of course, all that research that domestic violence is a 50-50 male-female problem is ignored, swept under the carpet, all so that the carpet munchers can have their say in demonizing men even more.
The problem with laws, aside from the obvious you go to jail for breaking them is that many people are idealistic and think that the government really knows best. Right now, whatever Mexicans are discussing this issue are probably hearing "well the government is not stupid, they must have done their research, poor women need to be protected from their jealous hotheaded husbands!"
Another thing that is notable about this new law and the reasoning behind it is that it paves the way for thoughtcrime - only applicable against men of course, because women always have the purest thoughts. Roy said it well in his comment on MANN...
Wow! This is a major advance in the criminalizing of emotion and thought!
How does one disprove the crime of "indifference" in a feminist court of law?
"Yer honor, I didn't DO anything!"
GUILTY AS CHARGED!
Imagine -- to be "indifferent" towards women will now be a crime! What specific behaviors will a husband or boyfriend have to perform in order to demonstrate that he's not in fact "indifferent?"
(Wife) - "Honey, what color do you think our new living room carpet should be?"
(Hubby) - "Oh, whatever you like, I don't really care."GUILTY! GUILTY! GUILTY! as charged.
"Lack of love" is also now a crime?
How do you legally define the minimal quotient of "love" that exempts you from prosecution? (I'm suspecting it has more to do with dinero than with amore...)
Notice that women can still be jealous, controlling and abusive. Women are still allowed to say no to their husbands - if a woman marries a man and refuses to have sex with him starting the honeymoon night, there is nothing the man can do about it. Nothing. Even if the wife fucks the poolboy in front of him and has his baby 9 months later, he can only look forward to 18 years of child support.
Never marry.
Geeze! With options like those, there's no reason NOT to kill her!
ReplyDeleteMan, another reason women should not be allowed to vote!!!
ReplyDeleteThanks for posting what this carpet muncher looks like.
ReplyDeleteFucking dyke. Stone her to death.
Unpanic. This is a tempest in a teapot. I have posted a lengthy commentary on dontgetmarried.com. Reminder, I am in Mexico, and spend most of my time here, this is not navel contemplation on my part. I will try to paste it here, there was a later posting, see Private essays,
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I glanced through the article in Spanish. It sounds as if it were written by the DV fiends from the US.
In one place, it said 45 days multa. That means a fine of 45 days of minimum wage. Or, 5 years in prison. Um, 45 days or 5 years in prison? Sounds silly, doesn't it?
But, lets look at why it's not going to happen. The man who works on my house, which is under construction, gets, rounding it off, $30 USD, a day for 8 hours of heavy work, which includes carrying around 110 pound bags of cement, etc. For 6 days of work, he gets around $180 USD.
His lovely daughter gets, or did until she quit, for 6 days work as a pharmacy clerk, $60 USD.
Her mom is a stay-at-home mom. Imagine what would happen if she had her husband sent to prison for five years. Older women can't even get that $60 a week job, since it goes to gorgeous young girls, who can flirt with customers.
So, if she sends her husband to prison for 5 years, she starves and her kids with her.
So, what are the odds that will happen? We need scientific exponents to describe those odds against it happening.
For things like this society has to be set up to enforce it. That means women have to get the same pay as men do, and have priority for jobs. There has to be a welfare system which basically makes it possible for women to have kids and support them well without help from a husband. There has to be a system which can in minutes identify and locate a man anywhere in the country so they can force him to pay child support. Or to take it from his salary. A system of population control so a man who is wanted for something can be found the minute he gets a job.
So, I can imagine the legislators, most of whom treat their wives like that, didn't mind voting for it, because they are well aware it's virtually unenforceable.
In the US and US-like countries, women can support themselves. So, if the men gets so p****d off they won't marry, the women can get good jobs, have their own places, and buy cat food for their pets. In Mexico, women who don't get married stay at home because they usually can't afford a place on female pay unless they have a boyfriend to live with (concubino).
Is anyone here going to argue that feminists are the smartest folks in town? I'm not. So, they probably think if they get insane, US style laws passed, they can do the same things here as in the US. They can't, because the support systems for nasty women simply isn't there.
If a man even suspects his wife might file charges, he can and will disappear, and within weeks, he will be living elsewhere, with another chick, and when other men find out what he is facing, they will help hide him. Or, he can go to the US illegally, and likewise essentially disappear.
We can't even keep 11 million illegals out, nor are we really sure how many are in the country, can we help find some guy who is wanted for jealousy, and send him back to femi prison? Think about that a minute. I know illegals, both at home and in the States, and I assure you they can only work illegally as they do, because they defend each other and cover for each other. Feminism works in US-like countries because most men are WIMPS who will turn on each other in a heart-beat. In US-like countries, other men are your worst enemies; it isn't like that in Mexico.
Let me give you another tip. Here in rural Mexico, it is virtually impossible for an unwed mother (madre soltera) to every marry. The only possible exception would be an extremely beautiful woman, and as you know they get married so quick anyway, it is unlikely many of them will be unwed mothers. I am told in the cities, an unwed mother can find a husband, but frankly, I have never seen it. I have seen they get some guy to live with, until she makes him angry and he either tosses her out, or he disappears. So, women know their only chance for any future is to remain a virgin if possible, get married, stay married, and learn how to take a punch. Very few women in Mexico are going to have their husbands tossed in prison, except for major crimes.
An unwed mother is a big drain on her parents and family. So, this is not an option in most cases.
This law may also be simply a charade to get female votes.
By the way, the police are also pretty macho, and it is unlikely they will obediently truck men off to prison for things they are doing themselves.
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This most likely was Pablum to the women's vote, and except the feminists might work up a case or two, offering to take care of the woman and her kids, get all the publicity from the cases, then dump them into the street to starve -- as they used Norma Corvey for Roe V. Wade, then treated her like so bad she eventually became an anti-abortion Christian.
A recent study shows that even women making $100,000 in the US lay awake nights worrying they might end up homeless. It's the nature of women to worry like that. In Mexico cities, all they have to do is go to the store, and they will see women with kids begging. So, their worries are reality based in Mexico.
So, this is a total non-issue.
I forgot to mention the culture thing in Mexico. One does not normally call the police unless there is a dead body. That's because letting the police in your house almost always qualifies you for the Darwin Award. They come in, investigate the reported crime, and tomorrow unknown persons break into your house and take all the valuables.
Or, maybe rape the woman who complained her husband wasn't giving her sex.
The women here are different, too. Suppose a woman sends her husband to prison, what is that man's mother, sisters, aunts, and so one going to do to her? Her life will be in danger.
The reason this concerns you is that in your country such laws will be enforced. Not here.
Repeat: they don't even do much here about DV.
Anonymous age 64
Thanks for the comments Anon 64. I can't help but compare it to the Indian laws we often talk about. Its just scary to think that tomorrow Mexico could get special funding from America's DV lobbyist-infested government, and then all of a sudden these laws will start to make sense.
ReplyDeleteWith any law, i'm not going to say "well don't worry about it, its not going to be enforced" that's just a bad stance to take since laws are passed so they can be enforced.
anonymous 64,
ReplyDeleteYou've said a lot of things that I agree with but I do have reservations. I have heard Vicente Fox has cracked down on police corruption and is trying to turn things around and they pass stupid DV laws like this to force Mexico into compliance for the union with the U.S. and Canada for the North American Union.
My point is things can change,they have elsewhere.
There's a pattern here, boys. World leaders are perfecting the divide and conquer tactic. Men and women, world-wide, are now the bitterest of enemies. This was done to de-stabilize society, and women, being the idiots they are, fell for it.
ReplyDeleteJust sit back if you're single and enjoy the show. Women will ultimately get the shaft. Laugh at them when they do.
This is a joke!!!!
ReplyDeleteThe birth rate will plummet.
Why teh hell is there no similar law for women who nag, bitch and refuse sex?????