Monday, October 29, 2007

A poignant observation

I was going through the threads linked by NO MA'AM on his post the other day, and one observation of his stuck out at me.

Another thing that you can notice almost instantly, that all married women do when they join the MRM, is right off assure everyone that they are not like that. In fact, they go out of their way to tell every male in the MRM, many of whom have been royally screwed by Western Women, that they are the epitome of the perfect woman & wife, which has been eluding all of us men our whole lives. Our lives would be perfect if we had just been lucky enough be one of these women's husbands.
So, it again becomes not all women are like that.
And they go out of their way to let us know that they are the perfect woman that we should all strive to find.
Oddly, these women's husbands are never posters on MRM boards, so we don't really know what their perfect marriage is really like, do we?

I think this man speaks the truth. The first thing any "anti-feminist" woman says is that "she's not like those other women" - the same way a girl trying to wheedle you into signing your balls over says "I'm not like those other women who will divorce you and take your money and children."

It has been said in the past, that dissimulation is the order of the day with women - it is what it is, you just have to guard yourself against it. You can't get mad at the rattlesnake for striking, and you can't get mad at the woman for her dissimulation and manipulation. That's why feminists call you a misogynist when you complain that women lie about rape or abuse or about basically anything, because it is in their nature. And to some extent people know it but don't want to say it.

I quite agree that things will be much worse for women than men. In fact, feminism's largest damage to women will be if men begin to see the natural manipulations that all women do, and men actually do make them equal and don't stick up for them anymore.
I don't really care what the women on the board think, and I am hardly talking to them, except to tell them to shut up. It irritates me though, to see women show up and start the mangina factory over and over again, and to see so many men that just love to come to heel for a "good woman." Of course, this is all just on these women's word. Every woman who's ever cheated on me told me she would never cheat on me at the beginning of the relationship too. Of course they are going to make us think that "they are not like that."
Notice that expat married men living abroad (of which I believe you are one) rarely talk about how good their marriages are compared to how the women in the MRM do. Basically, it seems that expat married men realize fully the nature of females, but have chosen to engage with one in a place where the law affords him the right to be in more control over her - expat married men are not preaching that "women are not all like that."
What we have going on in the MRM, in fact, what I view as the biggest problem overall, is that we are like a person trying to start a fire but there is someone right next to us who keeps blowing out the match before we can get it to the kindling. That's the effect that letting women into the MRM at the MRM's youthful stage has been having - they keep blowing out our matches before we can get the wildfire going.
Certainly, when the MRM reaches critical mass and takes off like a wildfire, there will be women involved. It is inevitable. Also, certainly when the MRM's message becomes more mainstream, it will tone down it's radicalness and become more docile and acceptable to the public in general.
Until it gets to that point, however, allowing women into the MRM and not pushing them away so we can get the damn match to the kindling, is going to be our eternal pitfall, as has been proven over and over by the MRM's history itself. Why are we still so small after being around for decades already?
I wish more in the MRM could see this, but they rarely do because they are just continually desperate to believe that all women are not like that.

Another good post.

I've noticed the "all women are not like that" crap a lot, but I never put it together the way Rob did here.