tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-36201662.post2132979391506154092..comments2023-10-16T03:21:54.638-04:00Comments on Pete Patriarch's Musings: Relationships and Men's Rights ActivismPete Patriarchhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/10040331326894128280noreply@blogger.comBlogger6125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-36201662.post-57117512645566543532007-02-24T13:53:00.000-05:002007-02-24T13:53:00.000-05:00"I and others have observed that when an MRA gets ...<I>"I and others have observed that when an MRA gets involved in a relationship he will soften or abandon his MRA beliefs but women keep their feminist beliefs no matter what."</I><BR/><BR/>That does pass the common sense test, but in my case, I've only started activism when I was within a relationship, not when I was single.<BR/><BR/>I think being in a relationship sets you free - the entire identity of a man is defined by the amount of hot pussy he can bag, and when you can say that your pussy is waiting for you at home, you don't have to worry so much about being nice to the other sex and being obsequious to the girls you meet, in the hope they'll let you in their pants.Pete Patriarchhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10040331326894128280noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-36201662.post-65786787604680823782007-02-20T20:42:00.000-05:002007-02-20T20:42:00.000-05:00there are plenty of great woman out and about.Wher...<I>there are plenty of great woman out and about.</I><BR/><BR/>Where? Where are these great women?In some old movie? In your head? Where?<BR/><BR/>They don't exist,dude.Masculist Manhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11335481946504127785noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-36201662.post-92199679023483587362007-02-20T14:17:00.000-05:002007-02-20T14:17:00.000-05:00The MRM is not about relationships,it is about the...The MRM is not about relationships,it is about the restoration of men's rights and MRA's are those that believe in those rights.<BR/><BR/>I and others have observed that when an MRA gets involved in a relationship he will soften or abandon his MRA beliefs but women keep their feminist beliefs no matter what.Masculist Manhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11335481946504127785noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-36201662.post-23489877507286466542007-02-20T04:30:00.000-05:002007-02-20T04:30:00.000-05:00Pete, relationships are fraught with danger anyway...Pete, relationships are fraught with danger anyway.<BR/><BR/>I understand your points though. Mistrusting an entire sub species isn't very sensible to say the least, and there are plenty of great woman out and about.<BR/><BR/>Like you say, it is about being aware of the potential dangers (legally and socially) of being in a relationship these days. The same way feminism tries to paint all men as rapists etc, in the real world we all know that's rubbish, it's the same with women. Most women are not lying, manipulative scumbags. <BR/><BR/>Well, they're not scumbags lol.<BR/><BR/>It's just about awareness and keeping your eyes peeled for any signs of a bitch.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-36201662.post-91340273507249654982007-02-19T13:21:00.000-05:002007-02-19T13:21:00.000-05:00Um, did she promise never to deliberately get preg...Um, did she promise never to deliberately get pregnant? That is on my mind because I just read online a Boston Herald article about athlete Tom Brady. Apparently, a girl friend he dumped in the fall is pregnant, and the writer made some sarcastic remarks, wondering if he were going to do the right thing.<BR/><BR/>Some sarcastic remarks about g.f. being thin, perhaps morning sickness?<BR/><BR/>Also, a quote from the woman in the fall saying her 5 year plan involved getting married and having kids.<BR/><BR/>Hey, Mr. Brady, be sure to have the DNA tested.<BR/><BR/>My own sarcastic remark involves the high likelihood that she indeed did plan to be married and pregnant, but neglected to obtain his agreement. So, my theory is, when he found out she had became pregnant, he dumped her, and will pay c.s. instead of becoming married which means she will get, um, everything. As bad as c.s. is, it is less than property settlement.<BR/><BR/>Anonymous age 64Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-36201662.post-47613712190325720022007-02-19T07:45:00.000-05:002007-02-19T07:45:00.000-05:00Your point about taking an extreme position, even ...Your point about taking an extreme position, even the MRA position, being bad for relationships is well taken. Both extremes can result in eliminating the desire for the parties to be in the relationship in the first place.<BR/><BR/>But your point about trust, which I believe is critical to any sort of successful relationship, is undercut by the difference in consequence for the breach of that trust. <BR/><BR/>You acknowledge that "false rape accusations and using domestic abuse as a pawn to get what you want" is more acceptable than rape. But the issue isn't whether it's acceptable - it's what the actual consequence is.<BR/><BR/>If a man violates his wife's trust, the law steps in to make him bear the consequences of his action. If he is unfaithful, he will be at a weaker position in the divorce. If he beats or rapes her, the state will put him in jail for a crime.<BR/><BR/>If a woman violates her husband's trust and is unfaithful, she still has the upper hand in the divorce. If she makes a false accusation of rape or domestic violence, the state will still put <B>him</B> in jail, not her (at least temporarily).<BR/><BR/>It is the interference in the relationship by the law and the state that is at the root of the problem, IMHO. Feminism has taken the position that the state has to interfere in order to guarantee a woman her 'rights'. <BR/><BR/>To the extent that the MRA's seem to want the state out of our relationships, I suppose our position is extreme. But a relationship that comes apart without state interference is one that I question the value of in the first place.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.com